Wednesday, August 01, 2007

Obama might send troops into Musharraf's Pakistan?

Okay, this is painful but I must agree with Senator Clinton on one tiny little issue as related in an article in the Telegraph, Obama 'would send troops into Pakistan'. According to the article by Toby Harnden in Washington,
"In an advance copy of a speech due to be delivered today, the Illinois senator, who is trailing Hillary Clinton in the race to become Democratic nominee, said he would dispatch forces to Pakistan even without the permission of President Pervez Musharraf. "There are terrorists holed up in those mountains who murdered 3,000 Americans," Mr Obama will say at the Woodrow Wilson International Centre for Scholars. "They are plotting to strike again. It was a terrible mistake to fail to act when we had a chance to take out an al-Qa'eda leadership meeting in 2005. If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will." Mr Obama's speech follows an angry row with Senator Clinton which erupted after he said in a debate that he was willing to meet leaders of rogue states like Cuba, North Korea and Iran without conditions within the first year of his presidency. Mrs Clinton blasted this statement as "frankly, naïve" and irresponsible while Mr Obama shot back that the New York senator's vote to authorise the Iraq war meant she was "Bush-Cheney lite". Thousands of Taliban fighters are based in Pakistan's vast and jagged mountains, where they can pass into Afghanistan, train for suicide operations and find refuge from local tribesmen. US intelligence experts fear that al-Qa'eda is regrouping there in preparation for another massive attack on America.
Musharraf has already stated that he will not take kindly to "invasionary" troops being sent into Pakistan. I agree with him. We need to support him as best as we can and if, or when, he asks for American troops or an allied force, then and only then do we publicly entertain the notion. Musharraf is in charge in Pakistan. I hope Musharraf beats the stuffing out of the al-Qaeda terrorists who are controlling part of Pakistan but to send in American troops without his request, now that is naive. To even say that as a presidential candidate, one is willing to involve American troops in yet another nation's internal battles is a little off-putting. Seems the Kos Kids won't like this much if Obama delivers the speech as portrayed in the advanced copy. But the very last thing Musharraf needs is our "rules of engagement" stuffed down his throat. If that happens, might as well just truss him up and roast him. We invade western Pakistan with out Musharraf's invitation and Musharraf is toast and the Taliban, al-Qaeda, and all the bad boys and girls get the Nukes. Way to go, Obama. Now, that's real "gravitas" talking. Real diplomacy too. Anyone want to take bets that he cuts that little tidbit out of his "prepared" speech?

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Blogger Chic Mommy said...

totally agree with you beach girl! The last thing we want is another war.

11:28 AM  
Blogger Beach Girl said...

Hi, Chic Mommy - we can send in troops to help Musharraf but NOT UNTIL he asks. I have no doubt that he and Bush have discussed such action and Musharraf is saying, "Let's hold off and let me handle this. When I need help in the form of troops, you'll know ASAP."

Thanks for stopping by.

12:16 PM  
Blogger MK said...

Obama made a big mistake with this, while trying to sound like a tough guy, he made a fool of himself in front of serious candidates and he also kicked the anti-war support in the teeth, apart from having the audacity of sending troops in, he also didn't say anything about building a coalition, the UN, France etc.

1:56 AM  
Blogger Beach Girl said...

MK, now Pakistan is screaming for us to leave Afghanistan, as if that will soften the tribal Islamic Taliban-types in western Pakistan.

Yep, Obama let his "short on gravitas" shirttail hang out on this one.

10:42 AM  
Blogger res publica said...

I disagree, Beach girl. Not necessarily bad for Musharref to feel some heat. He is in battle with the bad guys in the ISI and needs leverage. See my post at

10:13 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

""If We invade western Pakistan with out Musharraf's invitation and Musharraf is toast and the Taliban, al-Qaeda, and all the bad boys and girls get the Nukes.""]]]

Maybe that what Obama wants.


11:00 AM  
Blogger Lewis said...

You're a dumbass beachgirl, you like to simplify the situation when you dont have a clue as to what your even talking about. Weve given 10 BILLION dollars in the past few years to Musharaf and he hasnt made any serious progress to battle the Taliban/Al-Qaeda in the Wazirstan region of Pakistan.Since 2001 Taliban/ Al-Qaeda militants have only increased significantly. Instead Musharaf goes out and signs a peace treaty with the Islamic militants. Now whats really NAIVE is your actual belief that were looking for permission to enter Pakistan meanwhile Bush has ordered US troops into Pakistani soil already as well as unmaned drones.

2:44 PM  

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